"What kind of man was George Washington? How can we learn more about him on his own terms and from his own context? As we come up to the nation's 247th Birthday we chat with Jeanne and David Heidler about their book, "Washington's Circle: The Creation of the President." The Heidlers write about the circle of people around Washington in order to learn more about the nation's first citizen and his times. I hope you enjoy this chat as we think of how we can commemorate and celebrate the nation's 250th birthday in 2026." For a copy of the book, see: Washington’s Circle published by Random House (2015).