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"The Book Of Joy"

Penguin Random House

Douglas Abrams is an author, an editor and a literary agent. He's co-founder of HumanJourney.com, a public benefit company working to share life-changing and world-changing ideas.

Abrams joins Dakota Midday to talk about one of those ideas - the inherently human trait of joy.

Abrams spent a week with His Holiness the Dali Lama and Archbishop Desmond Tutu as the two men reveled in their friendship and discussed the nature of suffering, happiness and deep joy. One of the results is The Book of Joy: Lasting Happiness in a Changing World. It's in bookstores now.

Lori Walsh is the host and senior producer of In the Moment.